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31 October 2008

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Jenny Fox Markulec

Dare I say - I see your point - Yes - Obama can think and deep down I still hold true to my liberal social ideals & value ability to think, ponder and act...Love the letter to your Pop - My Fox clan is split on whom they think my father would vote for - though now I am leaning towards Obama.

Jenny

Sarahfish

Well said. I was very disappointed with the results of our election in Canada, but what a lift on Tuesday! It's been staggering to see the changes happening in the States over the last 8 years, so here's to the coming change.

Amy

I saw my parents at lunch yesterday, and my dad asked, "Are you going to disappoint your father with how you vote on election day?" Unfortunately, I already had the week before by already voting.

However, I skipped around the comment, as I always do with my family, completely dodging around the fact that I'm ragingly...Left? Progressive? Liberal? I'm not truly sure. I'd like to say Democratic, but, like you, I get pretty pissed at the Democratic party sometimes at how mellow they can be with many issues.

Sometime I'd love to be able to say something like this to my father, while I still can, when I summon up the gall. You choose wonderful words.

elizabeth

That is a great letter, particularly the part about Obama being able to think. Even his "gaffs" demonstrate this.

I had an unpleasant encounter with a McCain supporter at a wedding reception Saturday and the worst part about it was that I allowed her to get me upset. I only hope some of my words stayed with her.

Diane

I haven't been reading long, but this post brought tears to my eyes! Since when is the dream of a peaceful world in which we share and get along a bad idea?!?! I really don't understand the need to spread fear and hate in an attenpt to put yourself in a place to be a hero. Thank you for sharing, so eloquently, what I hope alot of us are feeling.

Jennifer

Amen.

Thankfully, both my parents and most of my family are voting for Obama and can't stand Bush (and didn't vote for him either). I'm not so lucky with a few other relatives (but hey, we're related by marriage, not by blood, is what I keep telling myself ;-D ).

lisa

Hey, I only come over here occasionally, but perhaps should visit more... so that when I bump into you at these fiber events I can have something other to talk about than "I just love seeing all these tall women here". ANYhoo... Great letter to your dad! I think when my economic self-interest is the economic interest of the general populace, then, perhaps it is a good place to make policy from. I read a men's health magazine the other day (while waiting in a hospital waiting room, instead of knitting, what was wrong with me?), which was overall rather eye-opening. But in particular and related to your post was an article about who has won these last elections. And the author says, wouldn't you think that brains (Gore) would beat out mush mouthedness (Bush) to be leader of our country. The author's contention, however, was that the candidate who was most true to his own self won. The one who could take their foibles and make them approachable rather than trying to hide them, as Clinton did with his early philandering and Bush did with his mangling of his native language. That if Kerry had talked about his protest years rather than trying to hide them and only talking about his service, he may have won. I think Obama is being true to himself, and that McCain has waffled hugely from his stances when he was a primary candidate the last time on the "straight talk express". The article showed a photo of Obama in sweats playing basketball, and commented how he looked totally natural doing it, like this IS something he does do, not a staged shot. So, here's hoping, eh?

Lucy

Well, I feel that I can speak on behalf of the global community when I say that yes, Obama does have a global view. That Palin person on the other hand is truly, truly frightening.

We're crossing every finger for you.

Mardel

You articulated perfectly what I keep saying in my head to my own Dad, long gone, but which I can't pull together quite so eloquently.

Rachel H

Well said, my friend.

Marji

I was radicalized way back in the 60s and am embarrassed by the subsequent self-indulgence exhibited by most of my fellow "flower children." I lost my parents young (my dad when I was 16 and my mom when I was 21) and they were both Democrats as I currently am. However, the party has moved along in a way that would probably not have garnered approval; although I think my dad and I would still be in agreement.

I have only ever voted for one Republican and that was long ago and far away and not likely to happen again.

Jocelyn

Thank you. I've been having similar conversations in my head a lot lately, although (for once) not with my parents, who have both walked away from the Republican ticket for the last two elections, I think precisely because of the reasons you articulate. I agree with you wholeheartedly that the greater good is the common good, and that we should protect others' rights to follow their ethical code as zealously as we protect our own. I can't quite figure out when paying taxes became socialism, and when implementing constitutional amendments to make one's own moral code the law for everyone started becoming normal, rather than the definition of big government (yes, I'm here in CA, just about in tears every time I see a Yes on Prop 8 sign). You can bet that we'll be watching the election returns on Tuesday night, right after I take my girls with me to vote so they can see how important the process is.

Carole

If my father were alive he'd be voting for McCain. And as much as I'd love to have been able to bust him for that it would not have been allowed. We had a huge fight over Sunday dinner once because I disagreed with him about homelessness. He told me in no uncertain terms that any political opinions I had that didn't agree with his were to be left unspoken. It caused a rift in our relationship that truly never healed.

lizbon

I don't talk politics much (for very specific reasons I won't go into here), but I will say this, the bumper sticker that has a pic of Obama and the one word "Hope" on it is the clearest articulation I've seen of a campaign message in decades. There is something poetic about the guy, and I despaired of ever seeing that in a presidential candidate in this country. I can only hope (small h) that we get a chance to see if he can fulfill this potential.

Lynn

My mother once remarked that my dad leaned Republican, except that a few days before each election, he'd really think about the issues - and he'd end up voting Democratic. A week or so ago, I called them to say hello and my dad said something to the effect of 'I'm afraid your middle sister might be (whisper) Republican.'

Knowing the sad lack of thoughtfulness in my own mind, I find it interesting to see how people come to their political choices. Often, it seems to be only how they were brought up. Although I'm pretty comfortable with sharing my parents' views, I wonder what I'd be thinking nowadays if I'd spent the pasat two decades in Tennessee, like my sister, instead of Massachusetts. It's rather frightening to see in myself how easily swayed I am by my companions.

Gina

Bravo! I attend a comedy show last week, and I was not afraid (in a largely Republican crowd) to applaud at the mention of Obama. The MC went on to laugh about "the redistribution of wealth". Read your Bible, bucko. Any Christian Republican who balks at this doesn't understand Jesus' rant in the temple, nor do they understand tithing. The Christian Republican who is concerned about the liberals who want to take away their freedom to bear arms and other constitutional rights is not concerned about taking a way my freedom to choose -- which is also a constitutional right.

Allyson

I really, really want the Christian Right out of my sh*t.

Jessica

If I thought my Dad would read and understand your letter, I would send it to him and my Mom, because I would never be able to be so articulate as to tell them everything you just did so well.

And Yay for Yalies! Just had to get that in there. ;)

seizuresalad

Thank you for this entry - I love that you wrote a letter to your father. I think I may shamelessly mimic you, because I've been talking to mine in my head for months and it might just do the trick to write it down.

Imbrium

After voting Republican throughout my childhood, and voting for Bush both times, my parents are both voting for Obama this year. When my father told me that, I cheered and whooped, and then wept. It's been so hard to see these two people that I love and respect make what I considered to be a terrible decision over and over again.

Here's to hoping we can all start healing soon.

Mome-rath

Brava, Juno. It's hard to believe you were ever inarticulate—your words always inspire me, and galvanize my own thoughts and opinions.

CatBookMom

Thank you for this post. I am hoping that Obama will be able to turn around some of the damage that the Bush presidency has done to the US and to the world. But it will be difficult and it will take a long time, and his opponents will shout about him dragging his feet, etc.

Today is my seniors' knitting group. It has been so difficult to stay quiet and listen to so many of them condemning gays, gay marriage (I have 2 friends whose weddings we've celebrated) and talking up McCain and Palin. Arguing with them would be useless and would further mark me as the odd one of the group. Thankfully I can enjoy their company most of the time.

Dr.Steph

Great post. My dad and I really saw eye to eye politically; I remember when a member of the Reform Party (super right--for Canada) came campaigning and wanting to end gun control and my father very politely closed the door on him. It really made me proud, but also crystallized the idea that people don't necessarily become more right the older they got (which I was told by others who disliked my left political work).

I also remember when the divide between left and right was really about economic policy rather than social issues. When we had a party called Progressive Conservative instead of now, where conservative forces seem to want to restrict not only government itself but the way people live and the services that enable them to grow and prosper.

Looking from the sidelines, I hope Obama delivers. I don't think he's lying to get elected, I just worry that things are not so easy to make better after the last 8 years.

soxanne

Nice post...thoughtful and insightful...interesting for me to hear such from a person who was brought up on the "other side" since my father was part of the DFL machine in Minnesota during the early 1960s ...

Thanks

carolyn

great post yourself, girlie.

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